Cuntnadian Wittle Wee wy KNOWS He Would Be Jumping for Dick If Hillary Rodham Clinton Had Been the One Pulling Us Out of Syria

[AlleyCat]

First he says America's out of Syria.

So... it's a bad thing if Syria gets out of control, but when Obama fucked
up Iraq by leaving without a "Status of Forces agreement", THAT was just
fine and dandy with you?

Figures... you liberals bathe in failure on a daily basis, so keep up the
status quo.

LOL... found THIS nugget AFTER typing what's above.

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A Strategy of Retreat in Syria, With Echoes of Obama

(B)y ordering the small American force of 2,000 troops to leave Syria, Mr.
Trump is about to turn his theory into practice. He is doing so to the
quiet horror of many of his senior aides, who have long argued that to
pull out of Syria (or Afghanistan, another conflict in which Mr. Trump has
said America has no legitimate long-term role) is to ignore the lessons of
the past two decades.

But even Mr. Trump's biggest critics, the Democrats, will have a hard time
going after him on this decision.

Mr. Trump's view that American forces cannot alter the strategic balance
in the Middle East, and should not be there, was fundamentally shared by
his immediate predecessor, Barack Obama.

It was Mr. Obama who, at almost the exact same moment in his presidency,
announced the removal of America?s last troops in Iraq... fucking up THAT
region forever, allowing ISIS to take over the middle East.

Thank goodness the Orange Man came along. ISIS is on the run... almost
decimated.

[AlleyCat]

On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 13:47:49 -0800 (PST), Tom Sr. says...

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Trump Is Making The Same Mistakes In Syria That OBAMA Did In The Middle
East

With a few keystrokes this past Wednesday, President Trump laid the
groundwork for an abrupt withdrawal of the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in
Syria, effectively abandoning anti-Islamic State allies on the ground and
potentially sealing the fate of more than 50,000 Syrian refugees dependent
on the United States for protection.

Trump's announcement, which took even his most senior advisers by
surprise, will reduce American influence at a critical stage in the Syria
conflict and render unattainable his administration's stated goals: an
"enduring" defeat of ISIS, a change in the behavior of Syrian leader
Bashar al-Assad and a reduced Iranian presence in Syria.

IN 2009, OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE WITH A DEEP AVERSION TO CONTINUED MILITARY
INVOLVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IN 2011, AFTER FAILING TO SECURE LEGAL
IMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 5,000 U.S. TROOPS IN AN UPDATE TO THE 2008 U.S.-IRAQ
STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT, OBAMA ENDED THE U.S. MILITARY PRESENCE IN
IRAQ.

Critics of Obama's decision called the withdrawal premature and pointed
out that the president was laying the groundwork for the eventual rise of
what would emerge as the Islamic State.

Jim Jeffrey, the U.S. ambassador in Iraq at the time and now the U.S.
special envoy for Syria, has argued that none of those consequences could
be foreshadowed at the time.

Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is ignoring
the lessons of Obama's blunder with a hasty withdrawal from Iraq and is
following through on his own "America First" campaign promise with the
Syria decision, tweeting, "We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason
for being there."

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 13:47:49 -0800 (PST), Tom Sr. says...

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Trump Is Making The Same Mistakes In Syria That OBAMA Did In The
Middle East
With a few keystrokes this past Wednesday, President Trump laid the
groundwork for an abrupt withdrawal of the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed
in Syria, effectively abandoning anti-Islamic State allies on the
ground and potentially sealing the fate of more than 50,000 Syrian
refugees dependent on the United States for protection.
Trump's announcement, which took even his most senior advisers by
surprise, will reduce American influence at a critical stage in the
Syria conflict and render unattainable his administration's stated
goals: an "enduring" defeat of ISIS, a change in the behavior of
Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad and a reduced Iranian presence in Syria.
IN 2009, OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE WITH A DEEP AVERSION TO CONTINUED
MILITARY INVOLVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IN 2011, AFTER FAILING TO
SECURE LEGAL IMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 5,000 U.S. TROOPS IN AN UPDATE TO THE
2008 U.S.-IRAQ STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT, OBAMA ENDED THE U.S.
MILITARY PRESENCE IN IRAQ.
Critics of Obama's decision called the withdrawal premature and
pointed out that the president was laying the groundwork for the
eventual rise of what would emerge as the Islamic State.
Jim Jeffrey, the U.S. ambassador in Iraq at the time and now the U.S.
special envoy for Syria, has argued that none of those consequences
could be foreshadowed at the time.
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".

It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq. It was the Iraq government which
demanded that America leave Iraq on
schedule.


"It established that U.S. combat forces
would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June
30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will
be completely out of Iraq by December 31,
2011."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%
93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

http://tinyurl.com/zrcfppb

[AlleyCat]

On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.

NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

Typical lieberal.. reads into something, only what he WANTS to and makes
up the rest, which is bullshit, then deletes what he doesn't want others
to see... the truth, as if no one can see the original post.

Again... NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Gawd, you lieberals iz so stupit.

"negotiatined"? Not even close.

can.politics re-instated.

STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in hate with Russia
these days. They LOVED Russian politics, i.e., Socialism/Communism until
Trump whooped that wide-load Clinton's fat ass. Fucking hypocrites.

https://i.imgur.com/pYRjq5A.jpg

[AlleyCat]

Post by AlleyCat
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

And you didn't say anything intelligible.

And yet, here you are, so you must have been able to read it, idiot.

Gawd, your stupid. You can't HELP but set yourself up for anything other
than defeat, can you?

If you answered the post, YOU must have been able to read it... dumb ass.

LOL.. WHO said Canadians were smart?

You lose again, wee wy the welfare queen.

[AlleyCat]

Post by AlleyCat
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

And you didn't say anything intelligible.

LOL

Good to see you find it pretty funny that you're unintelligible.

Try again, stupid. I don't speak beau cave... it's unintelligible.

[DoD]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.
Typical lieberal.. reads into something, only what he WANTS to and makes
up the rest, which is bullshit, then deletes what he doesn't want others
to see... the truth, as if no one can see the original post.
Again... NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".
Gawd, you lieberals iz so stupit.
"negotiatined"? Not even close.

When cnn pulled that same crap, lindsey graham called bullshit.... Jackasses
like buttholeman need to learn
they can't pull that same crap here... I hear that Trump is flexible on
Syria... something obama wasn't... Fucking retards
like buttholeman need to take their heads out of their asses...

https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/12/30/lindsey-graham-obamas-excuse-for-iraq-troop-pullout-is-a-bunch-of-bullsh-t/

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600,  Mitchell Holman says...

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

     There was no Obama "blunder".
     It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush.  Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot.  The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to  bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

THAT'S the blunder.

Jeez... are you truly this stupid, or is it just an act? Either way, it
makes you look like the biggest dumbasses in the world.

Now that Iraq looks lost, Republicans like to blame President Barack
Obama's administration for losing it. Indiana Gov. Mike Pence repeated the
charge in this week's vice presidential debate, claiming that "because
Hillary Clinton FAILED TO RENEGOTIATE A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT that
would have allowed some American combat troops to remain in Iraq and
secure the hard-fought gains the American soldier had won by 2009, [the
Islamic State] was able to be literally conjured up out of the desert.

The fact that Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine uncharacteristically allowed this to
pass without rebuttal made me wonder if he felt that any response he chose
would have been a loser. - foreignpolicy.com

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How The Obama Administration Bungled The Iraq Withdrawal Negotiations

The Obama administration is claiming it always intended to withdraw all
U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of this year, in line with the
president's announcement today, but in fact several parts of the
administration appeared to try hard to negotiate a deal for thousands of
troops to REMAIN - and failed.

The United States now stands to have significantly less influence in Iraq
than if the administration had been able to come to terms with Iraq over a
troop extension, according to experts and officials. - foreignpolicy.com

=====

Obama Refused To Sign Plan In Place To Leave 10,000 Troops In Iraq

"We had an agreement that the president could have signed that would have
kept 10,000 troops, less than we have in Korea, that could have created
the stability that would have allowed for Iraq to progress."

Military leaders in Baghdad and the Pentagon pushed for as many as 24,000,
but the White House rejected that amount. - politifact.com

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why negotiate a new one? Who called for it?

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:20:13 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why negotiate a new one?

Answered in previous post and below. There WERE negotiations.

Why? Gawd... that is probably one of the stupidest questions you have ever
asked. You don't leave a war-torn defeated country to its own devices.
What happened, was BECAUSE there was no SoFA in place, but it WAS
renegotiated.

Post by Gronk
Who called for it?

Answered in previous post.

The Obama administration was working for it for awhile. It was Iraqi
Parliament that was the sticking point.

All following quotes are from politifact.com

"... several parts of the administration appeared to try hard to negotiate
a deal for thousands of troops to REMAIN..."

"It was widely assumed a new plan would be negotiated after the 2008
version expired in 2011. There were no stipulations about a specific
number of American military personnel to be left behind."

"Obama reportedly did consider leaving up to 10,000 troops in strategic
locations after the exit..."

"Negotiations led to the idea of a smaller, continuous force of 3,500
troops, with up to 1,500 more rotating in and out, and about a half-dozen
F-16?s."

"The Obama White House considered 10,000 troops for a short time but ruled
it out, suggesting a much smaller force. Negotiations with Iraq broke
down, however, and there was no agreement that met conditions Washington
wanted."

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:20:13 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why negotiate a new one?

Answered in previous post and below. There WERE negotiations.

Idiot. I asked WHY, not WERE.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by AlleyCat
FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why would Iraq agree to renegotiate?

[Gronk]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by AlleyCat
FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why would Iraq agree to renegotiate?

ZING

[AlleyCat]

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:28:44 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by AlleyCat
FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why would Iraq agree to renegotiate?

ZING

You WOULD think that is a zinger, stupid. It's not, because they did,
dumbasses.

The Prime Minister WANTED troops to stay, but the Iraqi Parliament
wouldn't agree to the CONDITIONS.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supported the residual force and may
have signed a new plan, but the Iraqi parliament would not. Facing the
prospect of a weak agreement that didn't protect remaining troops the way
the United States wanted, when neither Baghdad nor Washington wanted to
leave them there, negotiations broke down. - politifact.com

Anything else you dumbasses were too stupid to look up, you NOW have to
look up yourselves.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by AlleyCat
You WOULD think that is a zinger, stupid. It's not, because they did,
dumbasses.
The Prime Minister WANTED troops to stay, but the Iraqi Parliament
wouldn't agree to the CONDITIONS.

We don't get to choose the leadership of another sovereign nation. However Iraq
set up its government is what we have to interact with.

[AlleyCat]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:00:51 -0800, Siri Cruise says...

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by AlleyCat
You WOULD think that is a zinger, stupid. It's not, because they did,
dumbasses.
The Prime Minister WANTED troops to stay, but the Iraqi Parliament
wouldn't agree to the CONDITIONS.

We don't get to choose the leadership of another sovereign nation. However Iraq
set up its government is what we have to interact with.

Is English your 1st language? Could have fooled me.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:28:44 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by AlleyCat
FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement", you fucking brain dead bonehead.

Why would Iraq agree to renegotiate?

ZING

You WOULD think that is a zinger, stupid. It's not, because they did,
dumbasses.

And you just zinged yourself.

Post by AlleyCat
The Prime Minister WANTED troops to stay, but the Iraqi Parliament
wouldn't agree to the CONDITIONS.

Bingo. They didn't agree to renegotiate

[Mr. B1ack]

Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700, Gronk says...

Post by Gronk
What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement",

Iraq was under no obligation to agree to any such thing.

[Gronk]

Post by Mr. B1ack

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:41:09 -0700,  Gronk says...

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to  bring the troops back
from Iraq.

FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of Forces
Agreement",

Iraq was under no obligation to agree to any such thing.

Bingo.

[M.I.Wakefield]

Post by Gronk

Post by Mr. B1ack

Post by AlleyCat
FAILURE, by he AND Hillary Clinton to RENEGOTIATE a NEW "Status of
Forces Agreement",

Iraq was under no obligation to agree to any such thing.

Bingo.

IIRC, Iraq's main demand was that US forces be subject to Iraqi courts,
which was a non-starter for the US.

[Gronk]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement

Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their
Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces
agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President
George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would
withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces
will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops

back from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement

Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their
Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces
agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President
George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would
withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces
will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops

back from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement

Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their
Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces
agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President
George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would
withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces
will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops

back from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement

Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their
Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces
agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President
George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would
withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces
will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops

back from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement

Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their
Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces
agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President
George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would
withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces
will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops

back from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Mitchell Holman]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreem
ent
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement
Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the
Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of
Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status
of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed
by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat
forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S.
combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her
money back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do
you not unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops
back from Iraq.

Back when the US honored it's treaties. Now
it just ignores them or tears them up.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement
(SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W.
Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from
Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be
completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities
during
Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA)
between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in
2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of
Iraq by
December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

There's something satisfying about seeing a moron like Alleypussy get
his comeuppance.

Swill
--
As journalists descend on Uvalde, as they did on Columbine,
Newtown, and Parkland,some are questioning whether a more
graphic approach is required to capture the reality of America’s
gun violence epidemic. "It’s time," suggests one industry leader,
"to show what a slaughtered 7-year-old looks like."
- Charlotte Klein in Vanity Fare 05/15/2022
https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1997/12/30

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during
Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA)
between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in
2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by
December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of
United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during
Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA)
between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in
2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by
December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement
Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On
the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the
Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence
in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and
the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It
established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out
of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Gronk

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement
Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On
the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the
Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence
in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and
the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It
established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out
of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her

money

Post by AlleyCat
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do

you not

Post by AlleyCat

Post by Mitchell Holman
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

Not to mention the public's disgust with Bush meant we wanted us out.

Swill
--
Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement
Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On
the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the
Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence
in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and
the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It
established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out
of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:04:39 -0600, Mitchell Holman says...

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by AlleyCat
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is
ignoring the lessons of Obama's blunder

There was no Obama "blunder".
It was BUSH who negotiatined the
timetable for pulling troops out of
Iraq.

LOL... bu bu bu but, it was Buuuuush. Lazy.
NO ONE said anything about a "timetable".

Idiot. The Agreement EXPLICITLY had a timetable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between
the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On
the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the
Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence
in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and
the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It
established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities
by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out
of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Post by AlleyCat
Go back to that backwater school your mommy paid for and ask for her money
back. Reading comprehension is NOT your strong suit.

Post by Mitchell Holman
What part of "FAILED TO LEAVE IN A STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT" do you not
unnastan? The "timetable" was perfectly OK.

What failure? Obama was bound by the Agreement to bring the troops back
from Iraq.

[Gronk]

Post by AlleyCat
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 13:47:49 -0800 (PST), Tom Sr. says...

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Trump Is Making The Same Mistakes In Syria That OBAMA Did In The Middle
East
With a few keystrokes this past Wednesday, President Trump laid the
groundwork for an abrupt withdrawal of the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in
Syria, effectively abandoning anti-Islamic State allies on the ground and
potentially sealing the fate of more than 50,000 Syrian refugees dependent
on the United States for protection.
Trump's announcement, which took even his most senior advisers by
surprise, will reduce American influence at a critical stage in the Syria
conflict and render unattainable his administration's stated goals: an
"enduring" defeat of ISIS, a change in the behavior of Syrian leader
Bashar al-Assad and a reduced Iranian presence in Syria.
IN 2009, OBAMA CAME INTO OFFICE WITH A DEEP AVERSION TO CONTINUED MILITARY
INVOLVEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. IN 2011, AFTER FAILING TO SECURE LEGAL
IMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 5,000 U.S. TROOPS IN AN UPDATE TO THE 2008 U.S.-IRAQ
STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT, OBAMA ENDED THE U.S. MILITARY PRESENCE IN
IRAQ.
Critics of Obama's decision called the withdrawal premature and pointed
out that the president was laying the groundwork for the eventual rise of
what would emerge as the Islamic State.
Jim Jeffrey, the U.S. ambassador in Iraq at the time and now the U.S.
special envoy for Syria, has argued that none of those consequences could
be foreshadowed at the time.
Now, 10 years later and with the benefit of hindsight, Trump is ignoring
the lessons of Obama's blunder with a hasty withdrawal from Iraq and is
following through on his own "America First" campaign promise with the
Syria decision, tweeting, "We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason
for being there."

No link. Fake news.

[AlleyCat]

On Sun, 06 Jan 2019 21:53:00 GMT, PIBB says...

I recall Trump saying the US simply had to get more involved in Syria,
especially on account of the children caught up in chemical bombings.
Has he forgotten them now?

Maybe you should take his word for what his reasonings are.

"We Have Won Against ISIS"

In overruling his generals and civilian advisers, Mr. Trump fulfilled his
frequently expressed desire to bring home American forces from a messy
foreign entanglement.

Funny, how you pansy-ass conscientious objecting pacifists are all for
staying in Syria, where more of our soldiers can be killed, JUST so you
can have another reason to bash Trump.

What the FUCK do YOU care, if America stays in Syria or not?

No reply, expected... not ON TOPIC, anyway.

Russia's not going to knock on YOUR door, are they... or do you WANT them
to?



STILL can't understand why liberals are so in hate with Russia these days.
They LOVED Russian politics, i.e., Socialism/Communism until Trump whooped
that wide-load Clinton's fat ass. Fucking hypocrites.

https://i.imgur.com/pYRjq5A.jpg

[AlleyCat]

"Obama inherited a timeline to exit Iraq from George W. Bush

Sad.

Lindsey Graham: Withdrawal From Syria Is An "Obama-Like Mistake"

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Americans Blame Obama For ISIS's Growth -- Vox

President Barack Obama didn't negotiate hard with then-Iraqi Prime
Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

There's a lively political debate over whether the Obama administration
deserves blame for the rise of ISIS.

The controversy centers on the FACT that former President Obama did not
succeed in extending the Bush-era status of forces agreement with Iraq,
which stipulated that all US troops had to withdraw from Iraq by the end
of 2011. The administration tried and failed to negotiate provisions that
would have allowed the United States to leave a number of troops there.

Critics blame this Obama failure for the current crisis. Obama didn't try
very hard to negotiate terms with then-Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-
Maliki. But if he had, then US forces could have severely degraded ISIS
and prevented this crisis from coming to a head.

"A military presence gives the U.S. leverage to shape political
outcomes," Reihan Salam, in one of the clearest articulations of this line
of criticism, argues. "The fundamental question is whether even a small
contingent of U.S. troops might have reassured members of Iraq's minority
communities by shielding them from the worst excesses of a Shia-dominated
government, thus undermining those calling for its violent overthrow."

The administration's defenders counter that major factions in the Iraqi
government were dead set on the US leaving zero troops behind. No
plausible amount of persuasion, they say, could have convinced key Iraqi
players to back a US presence.

What's more, they say, it probably doesn't matter. The US couldn't stamp
out ISIS even when it had a huge presence in Iraq during the war, so why
should anyone believe a small residual force would have mattered?

So, how did Trump "stamp-out" ISIS?

Obama = fail


STILL can't understand why liberals are so in hate with Russia these days.
They LOVED Russian politics, i.e., Socialism/Communism until Trump whooped
that wide-load Clinton's fat ass. Fucking hypocrites.

https://i.imgur.com/pYRjq5A.jpg